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Keith Pitts's avatar

Israel is our ally only because we supply them with weapons. They definitely have the right defend their earthly nation, but because of a shared belief with the Muslims, that Jesus is not the Messiah, the Son of God, God rejected them as his chosen people. Rome's leveling of Jerusalem sealed that. They put up with us because of the false teaching of the rapture, which states that Jesus is going to set up an earthly kingdom when he returns, something the Bible does not teach. Jesus even told Pilate that his kingdom is not of this world. Peter states the earth and all material things will be burned up when Christ returns. Israel also believes that the Messiah is yet to come. Many have been deceived and are going to be lost because of the false teaching the rapture and the premillennial doctrine.

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Anne's avatar

Thanks for discussing this topic. I just listened to the Cruz/Carlson discussion this morning, so you're podcast was off great interest to me.

We are very involved in the governnance in our state and efforts to affect public policy for good, and the dispensationalist theology is something we hear a lot... and frustrates us how public policy is based on that erroneous doctrine.

You did a good job in a short time explaining some of the flaws and what the truth is about Israel.

We have noted, also, how Israel was told not to go ''to Egypt' for help. If modern Israel truly were God's chosen people, they wouldn't need nor should they seek the US's help.

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Church Reset | Jack Wilkie's avatar

I'm hopeful that the next generation of leadership will be free from the obligation to dispensationalism - either personally, or among their constituents and donors.

Great point about Egypt. Calling on the US for help is "putting their trust in princes."

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

Modern Israel has no Shemite DNA , no relation to the Hebrew people

Abram was not a Jew, nor an Israelite. He was a Hebrew, Literally “From over there” or “beyond” a nomadic wanderer.

Jew is short for Judah and refers to only one tribe. There are 11 others, which are not jews. A Volkswagen is a car but not all cars are Volkswagens. it makes a difference in Bible interpretation.

The faithful remnant in Jesus day were led into the New Covenant He made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. When he said new he made the other old, ready to pass away in the first century 70AD

Jesus tore down the middle wall of separation and made of twain, ONE NEW MAN. The true Jew. No more twain, and that’s covenantal language. God has never had two people groups, there is no judao/christian ethic or people.

The Bible defines the physical Jew as Anti-Christ, of the synagogue of Satan, whose father is the devil. That’s all in there

The true Jew, the Israel of God is the Church. Jesus is never coming back to a physical Temple or physical city… he was made a quickening spirit and dwells in the believer, a temple built not with human hands, Christ in us, the hope of Glory. The church does not replace Israel, the church IS Israel. Heavenly Jerusalem, the mother of us all.

Not sure how well you know the word but you cannot prove any of what I just handed to you wrong. Be My guest. Greatest thing that helped me in my studies is this “The Bible was written for us not to us” For instance; Paul never said you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you…He said HE COULD…and so if you have his walk and his faith then perhaps you could also.

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