Absolutely brilliant framing of this dynamic. The point about neutral people being the real enablers is something I never qite saw so clearly before. In my own experince managing teams, I've noticed that same pattern where people who just want peace end up rewarding the loudest voices. The tricky part is most of those neutrals genuinly believe they're being reasonable and fair.
I can’t help but think of soft parenting when you said the “indulged temper tantrum”… these people obviously didn’t get the “whoppings” that I got when I was a kid. My mom and dad grew up in the depression, my dad was a World War II veteran, and neither one of them took any guff off of any of us kids. Obedience, personal responsibility, and respect were not optional in our home.
And TriTorch… We ARE being played… We are being played by Satan! There is nothing new under the sun… It happened back in Old Testament times… It happened when Jesus was on this earth… and it continues to happen now. We definitely need to know who our enemy is and who the enemy is using as cannon fodder. It’s just so incredibly sad to me… 😢🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Please consider that we are being played and that none of this is as it seems.
"If you catch 100 red fire ants as well as 100 large black ants, and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen. However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other. The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, when in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. This is exactly what's happening in society today. Liberal vs conservative, black vs white, pro mask vs anti-mask, vax vs anti-vax, rich vs poor, man vs woman, cop vs citizen, immigrant vs citizen. The real question we need to be asking ourselves is who's shaking the jar ... and why?" —Shera
President Obama's Warning: "You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage, you just have to raise enough questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media, in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of "truth", the games won."
We are those ants and that society and all that we are witnessing is contrived to destroy the United States—both sides of the blackmailed isle are in on it. Here are the WEF 2030 goals:
1) America will no longer be a super power
2) You will own nothing and be happy
To achieve this they have to destroy the old order first before they can usher in their new total surveillance tyrannical super state. To achieve that they are mercilessly dividing and conquering us which is the oldest playbook for control that exists. Here is how:
Ten Ways Billionaires Who Hate You Are Manipulating You Right Now by @thewisewolf
1) The first manipulation is the illusion of choice. You think you have two parties representing different visions for America but both parties are funded by the same billionaires, vote for the same surveillance bills, approve the same defense budgets, and serve the same corporate interests. The choice you are given is which color tie the puppet wears, not who controls the strings.
2) The second manipulation is emotional hijacking. The news does not inform you, it activates you. Every story is framed to trigger fear or anger or disgust because those emotions bypass your rational thinking and make you easier to control. You are not watching journalism. You are being subjected to psychological operations designed to keep you in a constant state of agitation.
3) The third manipulation is tribal sorting. The algorithm learns what makes you angry and feeds you more of it until your entire worldview is shaped by outrage at the other side. You are sorted into a tribe not because you chose it but because keeping you tribal keeps you predictable and profitable.
4) The fourth manipulation is false scarcity. You are told resources are limited and the other tribe is taking what belongs to you. Immigrants are stealing your jobs. Welfare recipients are draining your taxes. The other party is destroying your healthcare. Meanwhile the billionaire class has more wealth than any humans in history and could solve most of these problems tomorrow if they wanted to.
5) The fifth manipulation is memory holing. Stories that threaten powerful interests get buried or forgotten within days. Exposed crimes result in no consequences. Historical context that would help you understand the present is never taught. You are kept in a perpetual present with no past to learn from and no future to plan for.
6) The sixth manipulation is controlled opposition. The voices you think are fighting for you are often funded by the same interests they pretend to oppose. The outrage merchant on your side of the aisle is playing a character designed to keep you engaged and angry and tuned in while nothing ever actually changes.
7) The seventh manipulation is the Overton window. The range of acceptable opinion is artificially narrowed so that anything outside it seems extreme. Ideas that were mainstream fifty years ago are now treated as radical. Ideas that serve elite interests are treated as moderate common sense. You are not choosing your beliefs from the full range of human thought. You are choosing from a menu they wrote.
8) The eighth manipulation is learned helplessness. You are shown so many problems with no solutions that you eventually give up and accept that nothing can change. This is intentional. A population that believes resistance is futile does not resist. They scroll and complain and feel superior for understanding how bad things are while doing absolutely nothing about it.
9) The ninth manipulation is identity capture. Your political affiliation becomes your identity, and any attack on your party feels like an attack on you personally. This makes you defend politicians and policies that harm you because admitting they are wrong would mean admitting you were wrong, and your ego will not allow that.
10) The tenth manipulation is the most insidious of all: you are manipulated into believing you are too smart to be manipulated. Every person reading this thinks the manipulations I described apply to other people, the stupid people, the brainwashed people on the other side. That certainty is itself a manipulation. The moment you believe you are immune is the moment you become most vulnerable
There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject.. We cannot let them get away with these ridiculous ancient divide and conquer tactics...
The playing field is anything but level. If it were:
1) they can, it is based on a sliding scale of compatibilities and installed prejudices
2) commerce can bridge most gaps of incompatibility as everyone benefits
Because it isnt level
3) but only without negative outside influences which we are drowning in from
4) It is us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined vs the 1% who consider us cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide us, while working to replace us with AI, and raining down scorn.
And
5) WEF Head Yuval Harari, thinking about all this, puts it this way: “Utopia and dystopia depends on your values.” … The useless class he describes is uniquely vulnerable. “If a century ago you mounted a revolution against exploitation, you knew that when bad comes to worse, they can’t shoot all of us because they need us,” he said, citing army service and factory work.
Now it is becoming less clear why the ruling elite would not just kill the new useless class. “You’re totally expendable,” he told the audience. … “We don’t need you. But we are nice, so we’ll take care of you.” —Source (NYTimes interview, worth reading in full): https://archive.is/rWLoO
And
6) From the Congressional Record, January 27, 1917:
JP Morgan, Steel, Shipbuilding, and “powder” interests hired 12 high-ranking newspaper execs to determine how to “control generally the policy of the daily press” throughout the entire country.
Answer: They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.
…the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly SUPERVISE AND EDIT INFORMATION….
This policy also included the suppression of everything in opposition to the WISHES of the interests served.
I agree with your post, but probably not for the reason(s) you think.
At one point you stated:
"Good, honest people don’t throw temper tantrums, so they keep on losing. They also have a good-natured aversion to being seen as troublemakers, being called judgmental or arrogant, or bearing other social costs of taking unpopular stands."
You never defined these things, but I'm assuming that when you mention "good, honest people" that "keep on losing" because they have a "good-natured aversion to being seen as troublemakers [...]" that you're referring primarily, if not precisely, to white Christians. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're implying that white Christians in this country have, for some prolonged amount of time turned the other cheek, painstakingly taking the moral high ground while all the "other people" have in some way(s) run roughshod over them.
A surface-level understanding of American history disagrees with this premise wholeheartedly.
If we're to define a tantrum as "immaturely acting out simply due to not getting one's way", or "reacting violently to an undesirable outcome," then there have been no greater tantrum throwers than white (Christian) Americans.
What was the American Civil War if not a violent tantrum?
Southern white (predominantly) Christians were faced with a reality that they didn't like -- having their slaves taken away -- and they responded by throwing the deadliest tantrum in American history, to the tune of an estimated 700,000-ish American lives. Their tantrum failed and they lost. But the southern white Christians were not punished for their treason, so you still see Confederate flags and monuments today.
What were the Tulsa, Rosewood, and Wilmington Massacres if not violent tantrums?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing black people build thriving, successful communities -- and they responded by attacking and killing them, destroying their businesses, burning their homes and displacing everyone. Leaving entire black communities ruined and having to completely start back over from scratch. The white Christians were not punished for their terrorism.
What was the Red Summer of 1919 if not numerous violent tantrums nationwide?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing proud, confident black people, having come back from serving their country in WWI and expecting to be treated as humans due to their service -- and they responded by attacking black communities all across the country, resulting in raids, damage to property, and deaths in the hundreds. The white Christians were not punished for this terrorism.
What were lynchings if not violent tantrums?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing black people exist in "their country" -- and they responded by making public spectacles of the torture and killing of thousands of black men, women, and children all over the country over the course of almost 100 years. And the white Christians were not punished for this terrorism.
What was January 6th, and all of the MAGA movement, really, if not a violent tantrum?
White (predominantly) Christians were faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing a black man elected to the office of the President in 2008 -- and they ultimately responded by attacking their own government and their own countrymen. And, you guessed it, to this point the white Christians have not been punished for their violent terrorism.
To suggest that the "good, honest" Christian folk of America have suffered long with piety and restraint is utter fan fiction. It's revisionist victimhood at its finest.
The truth is that white Christians are without question the most violent, petulant throwers of tantrums that this land has ever seen - and it's not even close. To suggest otherwise is wildly ignorant, at best, and maliciously self-serving, at worst.
Like I said at the beginning, I don't think you're wrong in your broader point:
When you allow tantrum-throwers to continually throw tantrums without any repercussion things will only get worse as time goes on.
What begins as an "unpunished tantrum" today is "a barely trained, government sanctioned, tax-payer-funded, masked, anonymous goon-squad terrorizing Americans with impunity" tomorrow.
With all that said, I think we can both agree on this:
We should probably punish the tantrum-throwers this time.
I think Ms. Good's mistake was when she crossed the line from protesting (which is her constitutional right, even if what she is protesting -- the enforcement of immigration laws -- should not be protested) to actively trying to hinder the law enforcement from doing their job by blocking the street. At that point she goes into violation of Romans 13:1-7, Titus 3:1, and 1 Peter 2:13-17.
At the same time, it's also true that ICE agents in general need much better training. I've read numerous reports from many credible law enforcement sources over the past year that show that many who have been hired over the past year as ICE agents have sub-par backgrounds for law enforcement and have been given mediocre training on how to properly enforce the law so as to minimize loss of life. The videos taken of the shooting of Ms. Good give credence to this, considering that they show two ICE agents simultaneously shouting contradictory orders at her (to get out of the car and to drive), and that the shooter, even with his National Guard background (which I posit is similar but not quite the same as police law enforcement), made what numerous law enforcement officials call extremely novice mistakes: standing in front of the vehicle, thinking that shooting the driver of a moving vehicle is the best way to stop said driver from moving the vehicle, and trying to videotape the entire thing with one hand holding a cell phone instead of having body cams that leave your hands free. Additionally, there are numerous credible reports of ICE agents arresting legal immigrants and even some American citizens. That, of course, must not happen, no matter what.
Ms. Good's temper tantrum (i.e., protesting) in itself was not what put her life in danger, juvenile though it was. It was when she took her temper tantrum to the next level by trying her hand at physical obstruction of law enforcement, regardless of her view of its perceived injustice. Meanwhile, her shooter made some errors too which should not be overlooked but instead should be the catalyst for needed reform through better training so that loss of life is minimized in the future.
Absolutely brilliant framing of this dynamic. The point about neutral people being the real enablers is something I never qite saw so clearly before. In my own experince managing teams, I've noticed that same pattern where people who just want peace end up rewarding the loudest voices. The tricky part is most of those neutrals genuinly believe they're being reasonable and fair.
They really do. Finding the quickest exit from the conflict is their only interest, which in their mind makes them peacemakers.
I can’t help but think of soft parenting when you said the “indulged temper tantrum”… these people obviously didn’t get the “whoppings” that I got when I was a kid. My mom and dad grew up in the depression, my dad was a World War II veteran, and neither one of them took any guff off of any of us kids. Obedience, personal responsibility, and respect were not optional in our home.
And TriTorch… We ARE being played… We are being played by Satan! There is nothing new under the sun… It happened back in Old Testament times… It happened when Jesus was on this earth… and it continues to happen now. We definitely need to know who our enemy is and who the enemy is using as cannon fodder. It’s just so incredibly sad to me… 😢🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
100%. Gentle parenting and servant leadership are the same subversive tactic applied to different situations.
Spot on. Well done.
Please consider that we are being played and that none of this is as it seems.
"If you catch 100 red fire ants as well as 100 large black ants, and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen. However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other. The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, when in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. This is exactly what's happening in society today. Liberal vs conservative, black vs white, pro mask vs anti-mask, vax vs anti-vax, rich vs poor, man vs woman, cop vs citizen, immigrant vs citizen. The real question we need to be asking ourselves is who's shaking the jar ... and why?" —Shera
President Obama's Warning: "You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage, you just have to raise enough questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media, in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of "truth", the games won."
We are those ants and that society and all that we are witnessing is contrived to destroy the United States—both sides of the blackmailed isle are in on it. Here are the WEF 2030 goals:
1) America will no longer be a super power
2) You will own nothing and be happy
To achieve this they have to destroy the old order first before they can usher in their new total surveillance tyrannical super state. To achieve that they are mercilessly dividing and conquering us which is the oldest playbook for control that exists. Here is how:
Ten Ways Billionaires Who Hate You Are Manipulating You Right Now by @thewisewolf
1) The first manipulation is the illusion of choice. You think you have two parties representing different visions for America but both parties are funded by the same billionaires, vote for the same surveillance bills, approve the same defense budgets, and serve the same corporate interests. The choice you are given is which color tie the puppet wears, not who controls the strings.
2) The second manipulation is emotional hijacking. The news does not inform you, it activates you. Every story is framed to trigger fear or anger or disgust because those emotions bypass your rational thinking and make you easier to control. You are not watching journalism. You are being subjected to psychological operations designed to keep you in a constant state of agitation.
3) The third manipulation is tribal sorting. The algorithm learns what makes you angry and feeds you more of it until your entire worldview is shaped by outrage at the other side. You are sorted into a tribe not because you chose it but because keeping you tribal keeps you predictable and profitable.
4) The fourth manipulation is false scarcity. You are told resources are limited and the other tribe is taking what belongs to you. Immigrants are stealing your jobs. Welfare recipients are draining your taxes. The other party is destroying your healthcare. Meanwhile the billionaire class has more wealth than any humans in history and could solve most of these problems tomorrow if they wanted to.
5) The fifth manipulation is memory holing. Stories that threaten powerful interests get buried or forgotten within days. Exposed crimes result in no consequences. Historical context that would help you understand the present is never taught. You are kept in a perpetual present with no past to learn from and no future to plan for.
6) The sixth manipulation is controlled opposition. The voices you think are fighting for you are often funded by the same interests they pretend to oppose. The outrage merchant on your side of the aisle is playing a character designed to keep you engaged and angry and tuned in while nothing ever actually changes.
7) The seventh manipulation is the Overton window. The range of acceptable opinion is artificially narrowed so that anything outside it seems extreme. Ideas that were mainstream fifty years ago are now treated as radical. Ideas that serve elite interests are treated as moderate common sense. You are not choosing your beliefs from the full range of human thought. You are choosing from a menu they wrote.
8) The eighth manipulation is learned helplessness. You are shown so many problems with no solutions that you eventually give up and accept that nothing can change. This is intentional. A population that believes resistance is futile does not resist. They scroll and complain and feel superior for understanding how bad things are while doing absolutely nothing about it.
9) The ninth manipulation is identity capture. Your political affiliation becomes your identity, and any attack on your party feels like an attack on you personally. This makes you defend politicians and policies that harm you because admitting they are wrong would mean admitting you were wrong, and your ego will not allow that.
10) The tenth manipulation is the most insidious of all: you are manipulated into believing you are too smart to be manipulated. Every person reading this thinks the manipulations I described apply to other people, the stupid people, the brainwashed people on the other side. That certainty is itself a manipulation. The moment you believe you are immune is the moment you become most vulnerable
Much more must know information on these insidious manipulations here: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/there-is-something-way-bigger-going
There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject.. We cannot let them get away with these ridiculous ancient divide and conquer tactics...
People without a shared moral foundation, shared culture, and shared heritage don't get along. It's only natural.
The playing field is anything but level. If it were:
1) they can, it is based on a sliding scale of compatibilities and installed prejudices
2) commerce can bridge most gaps of incompatibility as everyone benefits
Because it isnt level
3) but only without negative outside influences which we are drowning in from
4) It is us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined vs the 1% who consider us cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide us, while working to replace us with AI, and raining down scorn.
And
5) WEF Head Yuval Harari, thinking about all this, puts it this way: “Utopia and dystopia depends on your values.” … The useless class he describes is uniquely vulnerable. “If a century ago you mounted a revolution against exploitation, you knew that when bad comes to worse, they can’t shoot all of us because they need us,” he said, citing army service and factory work.
Now it is becoming less clear why the ruling elite would not just kill the new useless class. “You’re totally expendable,” he told the audience. … “We don’t need you. But we are nice, so we’ll take care of you.” —Source (NYTimes interview, worth reading in full): https://archive.is/rWLoO
And
6) From the Congressional Record, January 27, 1917:
JP Morgan, Steel, Shipbuilding, and “powder” interests hired 12 high-ranking newspaper execs to determine how to “control generally the policy of the daily press” throughout the entire country.
Answer: They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.
…the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly SUPERVISE AND EDIT INFORMATION….
This policy also included the suppression of everything in opposition to the WISHES of the interests served.
I agree with your post, but probably not for the reason(s) you think.
At one point you stated:
"Good, honest people don’t throw temper tantrums, so they keep on losing. They also have a good-natured aversion to being seen as troublemakers, being called judgmental or arrogant, or bearing other social costs of taking unpopular stands."
You never defined these things, but I'm assuming that when you mention "good, honest people" that "keep on losing" because they have a "good-natured aversion to being seen as troublemakers [...]" that you're referring primarily, if not precisely, to white Christians. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're implying that white Christians in this country have, for some prolonged amount of time turned the other cheek, painstakingly taking the moral high ground while all the "other people" have in some way(s) run roughshod over them.
A surface-level understanding of American history disagrees with this premise wholeheartedly.
If we're to define a tantrum as "immaturely acting out simply due to not getting one's way", or "reacting violently to an undesirable outcome," then there have been no greater tantrum throwers than white (Christian) Americans.
What was the American Civil War if not a violent tantrum?
Southern white (predominantly) Christians were faced with a reality that they didn't like -- having their slaves taken away -- and they responded by throwing the deadliest tantrum in American history, to the tune of an estimated 700,000-ish American lives. Their tantrum failed and they lost. But the southern white Christians were not punished for their treason, so you still see Confederate flags and monuments today.
What were the Tulsa, Rosewood, and Wilmington Massacres if not violent tantrums?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing black people build thriving, successful communities -- and they responded by attacking and killing them, destroying their businesses, burning their homes and displacing everyone. Leaving entire black communities ruined and having to completely start back over from scratch. The white Christians were not punished for their terrorism.
What was the Red Summer of 1919 if not numerous violent tantrums nationwide?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing proud, confident black people, having come back from serving their country in WWI and expecting to be treated as humans due to their service -- and they responded by attacking black communities all across the country, resulting in raids, damage to property, and deaths in the hundreds. The white Christians were not punished for this terrorism.
What were lynchings if not violent tantrums?
White (predominantly) Christians were simply faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing black people exist in "their country" -- and they responded by making public spectacles of the torture and killing of thousands of black men, women, and children all over the country over the course of almost 100 years. And the white Christians were not punished for this terrorism.
What was January 6th, and all of the MAGA movement, really, if not a violent tantrum?
White (predominantly) Christians were faced with a reality that they didn't like -- seeing a black man elected to the office of the President in 2008 -- and they ultimately responded by attacking their own government and their own countrymen. And, you guessed it, to this point the white Christians have not been punished for their violent terrorism.
To suggest that the "good, honest" Christian folk of America have suffered long with piety and restraint is utter fan fiction. It's revisionist victimhood at its finest.
The truth is that white Christians are without question the most violent, petulant throwers of tantrums that this land has ever seen - and it's not even close. To suggest otherwise is wildly ignorant, at best, and maliciously self-serving, at worst.
Like I said at the beginning, I don't think you're wrong in your broader point:
When you allow tantrum-throwers to continually throw tantrums without any repercussion things will only get worse as time goes on.
What begins as an "unpunished tantrum" today is "a barely trained, government sanctioned, tax-payer-funded, masked, anonymous goon-squad terrorizing Americans with impunity" tomorrow.
With all that said, I think we can both agree on this:
We should probably punish the tantrum-throwers this time.
I didn’t say white. You may have a race obsession problem.
Hi Jack, can you please clarify?
Oh apologies. That's why I asked for clarification. So, who are the people that you're referring to that are disenfranchised? I'm unclear.
I think Ms. Good's mistake was when she crossed the line from protesting (which is her constitutional right, even if what she is protesting -- the enforcement of immigration laws -- should not be protested) to actively trying to hinder the law enforcement from doing their job by blocking the street. At that point she goes into violation of Romans 13:1-7, Titus 3:1, and 1 Peter 2:13-17.
At the same time, it's also true that ICE agents in general need much better training. I've read numerous reports from many credible law enforcement sources over the past year that show that many who have been hired over the past year as ICE agents have sub-par backgrounds for law enforcement and have been given mediocre training on how to properly enforce the law so as to minimize loss of life. The videos taken of the shooting of Ms. Good give credence to this, considering that they show two ICE agents simultaneously shouting contradictory orders at her (to get out of the car and to drive), and that the shooter, even with his National Guard background (which I posit is similar but not quite the same as police law enforcement), made what numerous law enforcement officials call extremely novice mistakes: standing in front of the vehicle, thinking that shooting the driver of a moving vehicle is the best way to stop said driver from moving the vehicle, and trying to videotape the entire thing with one hand holding a cell phone instead of having body cams that leave your hands free. Additionally, there are numerous credible reports of ICE agents arresting legal immigrants and even some American citizens. That, of course, must not happen, no matter what.
Ms. Good's temper tantrum (i.e., protesting) in itself was not what put her life in danger, juvenile though it was. It was when she took her temper tantrum to the next level by trying her hand at physical obstruction of law enforcement, regardless of her view of its perceived injustice. Meanwhile, her shooter made some errors too which should not be overlooked but instead should be the catalyst for needed reform through better training so that loss of life is minimized in the future.